How I Rediscovered Internet Radio

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Welp it’s happened. Now that Blaugust is over, there’s nothing to write about anymore. :)

I stumbled upon an episode of Spotify - Landmark on YouTube and sat down to watch the whole thing. It reminded me of two things: Tears For Fears is one of my favorite 80s bands, and a band from which I’ve never bought any of their music. Songs From The Big Chair is peak “huge 80s sound” which I miss from an audio engineering perspective, and I have a great appreciation for the simplicity and precision of the production in that album. There’s very little more than 4 instruments playing at any given time yet it still somehow sounds like a massive production.

It also reminded me of a show called VH1 Storytellers that I used to watch a lot in the 90s. I assumed it had been long dead, but it turns out they’ve been making shows for decades. I don’t even know how to watch VH1 anymore, to be honest.

That led me to look for Tears For Fears music online. Boy did that suck.

I hate trying to find music online. I wanted to listen to Shout with my best headphones, a pair of Sony MDR-7506s which I use for studio monitoring. (I have owned a pair since the early 90s, this is my second pair because I wore the first ones out, and the ear cups on these are wearing out now too.) The official YouTube video for Shout has a horrible hiss in the background that is very offputting and easy to hear in good headphones. Not to mention the ad that plays beforehand. I tried to find it on Amazon Music on my phone, but I think it’s locked behind the subscription. It plays beautifully for about a minute, without any hiss, encoded at a high bitrate, then it cuts off.

I just installed Spotify on my phone. I had to recover my account details. I was able to search for and play Songs From The Big Chair for free, but not in the right order, and it’s clearly an inferior sound quality. It sounds like an MP3 encoded at 128K, which, when you listen to it with good Sony headphones, sounds like a distorted mush of noise. At least there wasn’t any background hiss on Shout, and I can turn off the phone screen while listening. (Glares at YouTube.)

Casual music discovery right now seems worse than it’s ever been in history. There was a time when you simply turned on a radio and heard new music all the time. I suppose one could technically still do that, but good luck finding a device that will receive FM radio signals. Even if you could find one, there’s about 30 minutes of commercials for every hour of programming, which did not used to happen.

Well, as you can see, there’s definitely nothing to talk about now that Blaugust is over.

After I wrote that, I thought about the “old days,” which were actually the “new days” when compared to the real old days of the 80s and 90s. I’m referring of course to the early-to-mid 2000s, the days when MP3s took over the world. There was a thing called “Internet Radio” back then, which I accessed using WinAmp. You picked a “station” from a big list and streamed the music from that station into WinAmp and listened to it. From that, “Shoutcasting” was born, that thing where radio announcers would do live color commentary on “eSports” games, back before it was called eSports and nobody made any money. Somewhere around here I have an MP3 of a Shoutcast of a Return to Castle Wolfenstein “eSports” match I played in the early 2000s. I also have the “demo” recording of that match somewhere. I’ve always wanted to make a video mixing the two together, but I’m not sure it’s technologically possible to do so anymore.

Anyway, back then, of course, it was highly controversial to stream what seemed at the time to be perfect quality digital audio, and legal battles ensued. (Rightfully so, in my opinion, considering anyone could easily just record perfect digital copies of all the latest, greatest music streamed through WinAmp for free.) Regardless of that, it was a great way to discover new music. Just tune into an Internet Radio station and hear a non-stop list of new music every day, just like an FM radio station, except very few commericals and far superior sound quality. It was a great time. Then I changed computers a few times, moved a few times, got involved with other stuff, and forgot about the whole thing. I have a tendency to “forget” to listen to music unless I make conscious effort to do so. Which is weird, because it’s one of my favorite things. I think it’s because I like to sit down and really listen to music, not just have it on in the background, and it’s hard to find time to do that.

Anyway I just assumed that Internet Radio had been sued out of existence. I thought Spotify and Pandora and Amazon Music replaced it completely, and those services were the compromise that the music industry worked out. Filled with ads, subscriptions required to get anything resembling a proper music experience out of it, etc. I posed an idle question on Twitter about it.

It turns out that not only is Internet Radio not dead, it’s bigger than ever, and it’s exactly the same as I remember it. @Stargrace told me about this site called, funnily enough, internet-radio.com which happens to have an enormous list of streaming radio stations.

You don’t need an MP3 player like WinAmp anymore though. You just click on station links in your web browser. You click a link, and music just pours out of your speakers, just like turning on an FM radio.

Now I know why everyone always says “terrestrial radio” instead of just “radio.”

I’m not entirely sure how this is legal, to be honest. Although part of it might be that I have yet to find a station that plays music I recognize as something I could go to a store and buy. [Update: Okay that’s not true.] I sure haven’t found anything playing selections from Songs From The Big Chair. I only recognized one “commercial” song which was Zombie by The Cranberries, which I heard on the “Radio K (KUOM): Real College Radio” station out of Minneapolis. The other reason it might be legal is many of these stations are affiliated with a terrestrial radio station, through which they can purchase all the necessary licenses.

I looked for a way to play these stations on my phone, and downloaded a Shoutcast app. It’s riddled with ads, of course, and the UI is complete garbage, but it works. I can plug my Sony headphones into my phone and stream 320Kbps stations at a quality approaching CD quality, while I’m lying here in bed tapping away on my Apple wireless keyboard into the iPad EverNote app.

It’s cool, is what I’m saying. A little more work, but way better than Spotify or Amazon Music or whatever the heck the latest cloud music service is that’s just a flimsy pretense for ramming the most expensively-marketed pop bands of the day down your throat.

P. S. To Bhagpuss, this is exactly the kind of post for which I wish I could just reach into my media library and grab an image I’ve already uploaded for the thumbnail. It’s just a narrative stream that doesn’t require any illustrations, but a thumbnail image is mandatory before publication regardless. So I had to get out my camera and take a picture of a web browser and import it into the blog just to give my post a thumbnail so millennials might click on it on Twitter, which was a massive pain. :)

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Archived Comments

Stargrace 2019-09-07T15:15:44Z

I’ve had the same issue in regards to trying to finding music that I actually want to listen to. I don’t necessarily want to listen to an entire album of one artist, and I like to discover new music but I don’t want to listen to the 1 radio station we have here in town that plays what I don’t believe is actual music.

So internet radio has becoming my go-to. I use it for themed stations (I can’t help it, I like Christmas all year round), sea shanty stations, Celtic music, and anything else my mind feels like listening to. It’s a wonderful thing and actually DOES make me miss win-amp because these days those types of stations are scattered all over the damn place and finding ONE place to listen to them all is difficult.

Krikket 2019-09-07T16:22:46Z I’ve had (paid) Spotify for about a year now, and I love it. That said, free Spotify is kind of crap, and I totally get why it’s un-fun to use. I used to use the Amazon music service when it was actually part of the Prime cost (and before they gutted it to sell a subscription service). Weirdly, I am cheap about a lot of things, but I do keep a handful of subscription services that keep me from making impulse purchases. Now, I subscribe to video streaming, music streaming, and Amazon Kindle unlimited and STILL pay less a month than I would for a robust cable package. I’m at peace with it.

bhagpuss 2019-09-07T19:11:49Z

I’m so glad i don’t have your ears! I’ve been hearing uadiophiles tell me for decades about how one source sounds so much better than another and I can’#t think of anything more likely to spoil listening to mujsic for me. Every source I listen to sounds great if i like the song/sound. I find YouTube, over speakers or headphones, just excellent, for example, but honestly if you played me the same track over half a dozen sources and bit rates and al the rest i very much doubt I could tellthe difference. I count that a blessing!

As for this being a terrible time to discover new music… speechless! I must have done a dozen posts now in which I mention (or rave) about how, in almost fifty years of musical obsession, I have never known a more wonderful time to discover new artists and sounds. YouTube alone is a miracle. How else could I conceivably hear a garage band in Manilla literally performing in their garage? Or hear amazing songs recorded by shut-in sad people in their bedrooms? It’s like having the world in my pocket!

Internet radio is also amazing. I’ve been listening to it for twenty years now. I used to use internet-radio.com but now I prefer https://radio.garden. I almost never listen to music stations though. I’ve never found radio to be a very good source of hearing new music. Even the supposedly alternative and college stations always seem pretty obvious in their programming unless you happen on a particularly interesting show. I mostly listen to local speech programming where you can learn all kinds of weird things about how people live in obscure towns in the middle of nowhere.

As for the image, but don’t you feel better for having taken the trouble to create a new picture specifically for the post? I would!

Fourth post and second browser due to Jetpack playing up.

UltrViolet 2019-09-07T21:15:41Z Sorry folks I don’t know what’s up with the comments. It’s holding them up for moderation for some unknown reason.

UltrViolet 2019-09-07T21:23:36Z Your music posts are very interesting but I can’t imagine going to all that trouble to find new music on YouTube. :) Also I have a weird thing where I don’t like to watch music videos, I prefer to just listen. The video component is often a distraction to me.

Stormwaltz 2019-09-08T02:12:14Z

I’ve been listening to di.fm (Digitally Imported) for… yikes, over 15 years now? Stations stream random selections by curated genre. I’ve found tons of musicians I’d have never heard of, and a whole new genre to love (“future garage”).

Their free streams are decent quality with 60s of commercials every so often. I pay $60 a year for a sub that boosts quality, eliminates ads, and includes access to jazzradio.com, rockradio.com (decent 80s alterative channel), and a couple other site/apps I forget.

Yeah, it’s a good time for internet radio. :)

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